LOTI 018 : Rogue Strategy Guide

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LOTI #018 – Legend of the Innkeeper – “Rogue Strategy Guide”

Intro:

Welcome to the Legend of the Innkeeper.  I’m Vastidious and I’m Ariannwyn.  We’re glad you could join us for our 18th episode.

This week we are talking about…

Updates:

What did you do this week?

Top 3 of the week

Vastidious – Betrayal, Eviscerate, Assassinate

Ariannwyn –  Defias Ringleader, Backstab, Vanish

News

1. Mobile Development Update

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/16421347

  1. Trolden (HearthTrolden “Funny & Lucky Moments”) denied BlizzCon Visa

http://www.gosugamers.net/hearthstone/news/28879-youtuber-trolden-denied-blizzcon-visa-not-a-real-media-embassy-says

  1.  Hearthstone wins big in the Golden Joystick Awards! – http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/golden-joystick-awards-2014-recap-4499861

 

  • Best Online Game: Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft
  • Best Mobile Game: Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft
  • Best Game Of The Year, Runner Up: Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft

 

  • Last week’s show

I want to say, I’m a bit shocked.  Last week we covered the Warrior.  To date, that is the least downloaded show EVER!  Did everyone see Warrior in the title and go Eww!?!

 

  • Another upcoming Milestone

I also want to mention that we’re about to hit another major milestone.  We have one episode that is about to break 1,000 downloads!  Episode 15, the Paladin guide is a 992!.  Two more shows are at 900+, #13 The Hunter Guide and #10 The first Arena Guide.

Getting Better – Rogue

According to Hearthstats.net, the Rogue is #2 in Arena and #9 in Constructed currently.

Rogue

The idea behind the rogue class is one of direct damage using combos and light weapons.  Where the Shaman has totems, the Hunter it’s beasts, the Rogue uses combinations and stealth to achieve victory.  Sure other classes have combinations of cards that work well with their class abilities, but the Rogue has cards that are rogue only that take the combo idea to a whole new level.

The cool thing about the rogue is that it is fairly adept at numerous different playstyles.  I think this is what has kept the rogue at the top of the win list pretty much since the game came out.  It seems like that the Rogue and Mage are constantly rotating between #1 and #2 on the Arena rankings.

The primary style that is prevalent in the Meta today is what is called the ‘Miracle’ Rogue.  It’s named this because of it’s ability to do a lot of damage quickly, using the combo cards with their weapons.  Another common playstyle is the Tempo Rogue.  This strategy is all about controlling the tempo of the game.  It usually utilizes being able to remove threats from the board of the opponent while still doing damage to the opposing hero.

The hero ability just adds to the power of the rogue, even though it appears to be a rather weak ability.  Having the ability to summon a 1/ 2  weapon isn’t that powerful, but when you have cards like Deadly Poison (1 mana, Give your weapon +2 attack) that then can be used with Blade Flurry (2 mana, Destroy your weapon and deal it’s damage to all enemies) or Bloodsail Raider (2 mana minion, Battlecry: Gain Attack equal to the Attack of your weapon) it starts to show it’s true potential.

Combos:

When we start to look at the Rogue combos, you will quickly find that there are lots of them.  But there are a few that you tend to see more frequently than others.  In fact I would suspect that we’re going to continue to see unique ways to take advantage of the Rogue ability for a while yet.

One of the better early game combos for the Rogue is to use the Coin + Defias Ringleader (2 mana minion, Combo: Summon a 2/1 Defias Bandit.)  This let you get him and his sidekick (Defias Bandit) out on turn 1.  If you have Shadowstep (0 Mana, Return a friendly minion to your hand.  It costs (2) less.) in your hand then you can use that to play him a second time and have 3 minions on the board on turn 1!

We already mentioned earlier about comboing together the Hero Ability + Deadly Poison + Blade Flurry or Bloodsail Raider for either a big minion or board removal.

Another way to take advantage of the Rogue is to incorporate Spell damage into the mix.  I’ve been playing around with a deck called the Malygos Rogue.  The big card that you are working around is Malygos (9 mana 4/12 minion, Spell Damage +5).  If you can get this monster on the board and then use to with your spells it combos into some insane damage.  You can also utilize the Azure Drake or Bloodmage Thalnos for less powerful boosts.  Here are some of the combos that can happen with these cards.

  • Malygos + Fan of Knives (3 mana, Deal 1 damage to all enemy minions.  Draw a card.) = 6 damage to all enemy minions.
  • Malygos + Sinister Strike (1 mana, Deal 3 damage to the enemy hero.) = 8 damage to hero.  If you have two in your hand, 16 damage to hero.
  • Malygos + Conceal (1 mana, Give your minions stealth until next turn) + Faceless Manipulator (5 mana 3/3 minion, Battlecry: Choose a minion and become a copy of it) on Malygos + 2 Sinister Strikes and then attack with the first Malygos = 30 damage!

And we haven’t even started talking about the Gadgetzan Auctioneer (5 mana 4/4 minion, Whenever you cast a spell, draw a card.)  The Gadgeteer, as I like to call it, is what makes the Miracle Rogue work.  When you can combo together multiple spells which is very easy to do with the Rogue, you can practically continue drawing and playing cards way beyond what should be possible.  For example, you can play cards like Backstab (0 mana, Deal 2 damage to an undamaged minion), Shadowstep (0 mana, Return a friendly minion back to your hand. It costs (2) less) and then Preparation (0 mana, The next spell you cast this turn costs (3) less.); you just can do some serious damage in a very short amount of time.  And if you have spell damage on the board when you do this?!?

We could go on and on about the Rogue combos.  I would encourage you to be creative and think outside of the box.  Use the anchor cards we talked about earlier (Gadgeteer, Malygos) to build around.  Look for ways to combine two or three different cards abilities to greater effect.  That’s the fun part about the Rogue.

Special Cards:

The rogue is all about having special cards.  We’ve already touched on some of them.  Let’s take a little closer look at a few here:

Preparation (0 mana, The next spell you cast this turn costs (3) less.) – This card has become one of the keys to the Gadgeteer combo.  Allowing you to get more cards off at 0 cost during that combo is extremely useful.  In the past it’s been classified as a terrible card but in the right places it’s amazing.

SI:7 Agent (3 mana, 3/3 minion, Combo: Deal 2 damage.) – We’ve talked about this one already.  A great card especially if you can get the combo.

Perdition’s Blade – (3 mana, 2/2 weapon, Battlecry: Deal 1 damage. Combo: Deal 2 instead.) – One of the better weapons available to the rogue.

Backstab (0 mana, Deal 2 damage to an undamaged minion) – A great removal card either early in the game or in combination with the hero weapon.

Eviscerate (2 mana, Deal 2 damage.  Combo: Deal 4 damage instead) – Do what you can to get the combo.  It’s worth it.  Plus you can damage a minion or the hero.

Assassinate (5 mana, Destroy an enemy minion) – An amazing card to clear out those pesky Legendaries.  Must have card.

Deadly Poison (1 mana, Give your weapon +2 Attack) – Well worth a slot or two in your deck since you can always have a weapon equipped thanks to your hero ability.

Legendary: Edwin VanCleef (3 mana, 2/2 minion, Combo: Gain +2/+2 for each card played earlier this turn) – This is not your typical legendary card.  Without comboing this card, he’s useless.  You have to combo him.  In most cases you will only see him become a 4/4 or 6/6 minion unless you can work him into your Gadgeteer combo.  But another problem is that he’s the perfect target for silence, hex or polymorph.  An awesome card if you can get him to work.

Arena:

The Rogue is consistently one of the top classes in the Arena, season after season.  But I will say that you have to keep in mind that in order to win with the Rogue in Arena you have to focus on doing damage to your opponent.  Combos while great in Constructed are hard to lean on when constructing an Arena deck.  You might get one part of the combo and never see the second part.  So keep this in mind as you draft your deck.

  • Eviscerate (2 mana, Deal 2 damage.  Combo: Deal 4 damage instead) – A great Arena card.  It’s fairly easy to combo this card to get the extra 4 damage.
  • Perdition’s Blade (3 mana 2/2 weapon, Battlecry: Deal 1 damage.  Combo: Deal 2 instead.) – It’s a solid weapon for use early in the game and you can combo for more damage!  Sold!
  • Assassin’s Blade (5 mana, 3/ 4 weapon) – 4 rounds of 3 damage is awesome as long as they don’t have Acidic Swamp Ooze.  Combine this with Deadly poison?!  You now have a 5 / 4 weapon.  Ouch.
  • SI:7 Agent (3 mana, 3/3 minion, Combo: Deal 2 damage.) – Think about it as a Backstab with a 3/3 minion attached.  For its overall value, it’s one of the better cards you can get.
  • Backstab (0 mana, Deal 2 damage to an undamaged minion) – Speaking of backstab, this card is extremely useful.  However remember, it only damages an undamaged minion.
  • Assassinate (5 mana, Destroy an enemy minion) – What more do we need to say.  You have the ability to simply remove a huge minion from the board, like Ragnaros.  Save it for the late game.
  • Defias Ringleader (2 mana, 2/2 minion, Combo:Summon a 2/1 Defias Bandit) – In the Arena this can be a great opening however if you don’t get it in your opening hand it’s not as useful as some of the other options.  I would grab one but only one.
  • Betrayal (2 mana, An enemy minion deals its damage to the minions next to it.) – This I think is one of my favorite Rogue cards.  It’s so fun to take advantage of a big minion sitting between two other minions on your opponents side.  However, positioning is critical here.  I love it but you don’t need more than one.

Decks:

Basic Tempo Rogue

http://hearthstoneplayers.com/beginner-deck-tech-basic-tempo-rogue/

– Class cards

2x Backstab

2x Deadly Poison

1x Sap

2x Fan of Knives

1x Assassin’s Blade

2x Assassinate

1x Sprint

– Neutral cards

2x Acidic Swamp Ooze

2x Bloodfen Raptor

1x Kobold Geomancer

2x Ironfur Grizzly

2x Shattered Sun Cleric

2x Chillwind Yeti

2x Gnomish Inventor

1x Ogre Magi

2x Sen’jin Shieldmasta

2x Boulderfist Ogre

1x Stormwind Champion

Concept Rogue

http://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/246163/i_hit_legend_in_123_wins_with_free_to_playbudget/

– Class cards

2x Backstab

1x Cold Blood

2x Deadly Poison

1x Blade Flurry

2x Eviscerate

2x Sap

2x Defias Ringleader

2x SI:7 Agent

1x Assassin’s Blade

1x Sprint

– Neutral cards

2x Argent Squire

1x Knife Juggler

2x Loot Hoarder

2x Harvest Golem

1x Shattered Sun Cleric

1x Chillwind Yeti

1x Dark Iron Dwarf

1x Defender of Argus

2x Azure Drake

2x Argent Commander

Malygos Rogue:

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/constructed-strategy/469734-alchemixt-maly-rogue-video-series

– Class cards

2x Backstab

2x Preparation

2x Deadly Poison

2x Sinister Strike

2x Blade Flurry

2x Eviscerate

2x Sap

2x Shiv

1x Fan of Knives

1x Edwin VanCleef

2x SI:7 Agent

1x Assassin’s Blade

– Neutral cards

1x Bloodmage Thalnos

2x Earthen Ring Farseer

2x Azure Drake

2x Gadgetzan Auctioneer

1x Loatheb

1x Malygos

Mill Rogue (Naxx)

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/74199-mill-rogue-naxx

– Class cards

2x Backstab

2x Shadowstep

2x Cold Blood

2x Deadly Poison

1x Blade Flurry

2x Eviscerate

2x Sap

1x Edwin VanCleef

2x Fan of Knives

2x SI:7 Agent

1x Anub’ar Ambusher

1x Assassin’s Blade

1x Vanish

– Neutral cards

1x Bloodmage Thalnos

1x Lorewalker Cho

1x Youthful Brewmaster

2c Coldlight Oracle

2x Dancing Swords

1x King Mukla

1x Loatheb

Vastidious Tempo Rogue

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/114653-vastidious-temp-rogue

2x Backstab

1x Preparation

2x Cold Blood

2x Deadly Poison

1x Zombie Chow

1x Betrayal

1x Blade Flurry

2x Eviscerate

1x Sap

2x Shiv

1x Bloodmage Thalnos

2x Fan of Knives

2x Earthen Ring Farseer

1x Shade of Naxxramas

2x SI:7 Agent

2x Violet Teacher

2x Azure Drake

1x Gadgetzan Auctioneer

1x Loatheb

1x Kel’Thuzad

Tournaments

BlizzCon viewing parties:  http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/16515623/watch-blizzcon%C2%AE-2014-with-friends-10-24-2014

Reviews and Emails

Shout outs!

AwakenX

“Little Leo”

iTunes Reviews: 5 star from RustyTromPWN

>>>  First of all, SHOUT OUT to Little Leo!.  <grin>

“Been listening since the beginning and wow!  Great job guys!  I really enjoy listening to the show evolve.  These two are listening to all of you out there and dedicated to fine tuning the show.  The family dynamic is awesome, being a recent new dad (shout out to little Leo!) It’s fun to see whats possible to create while having a blast together.  I wouldn’t consider myself casual, but am still learning new card combos like wild pyro and commanding shout! … and then there’s wild pyro and inner rage!! … oooh and who could forget wild pyro and slam! 😉  ha ha ha ha ha.  You guys are hilarious.  Keep up the good work.  Cheers!”

Emails:

From Badehoe:

Hi there Vastidious and Ariannwyn,

I have found a Poor man’s Mircale rogue deck wich is super funny to play.

the deck list:

http://hearthstats.net/decks/poor-man-s-miracle–2?locale=en

Its only 1940 dust and you don’t need naxxramas for it.

So its cheap, funny to play and i made rank 10 with it.

I hope you will review it on the show.

Keep up the good work,

Badehoe

Twitter: 78 followers

Earlier this week I tweeted about how it seems like everyone saw Warrior in the title of the show and didn’t download it.  But we did get a tweet from JG (@jabberwocky) that he’s hooked playing the Warrior.  So at least someone likes it!  Hehe.

Outro

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